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		<title>By: Pixel Pete</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2008/09/07/street-or-candid-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-2830</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixel Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,
Thanks for visiting and commenting. My advice about taking pictures inside malls is to be &quot;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;low key&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; That usually means not using a flash. 

Most security guards and rent-a-cops have orders not to allow any photography. But to enforce that would be difficult, so they usually don&#039;t bother if you don&#039;t appear like a professional and are usually a point and shoot.

In case you haven&#039;t noticed, just about every portable device has a digital camera in it now especially phones, so they&#039;re fighting a losing battle there.

If you use a digital SLR, I would suggest no long zoom lenses, that will usually &quot;tip them off.&quot;

If you get stopped, just say you didn&#039;t know and move on and don&#039;t argue, it&#039;s not worth it. I doubt they&#039;ll ask you to erase your images. 

A little trick you can do on some digital SLRs is use the &quot;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;protect image&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&quot; feature. If you&#039;re asked to erase the images, show them the menu where you choose erase all images. 

Those images you protected will be safe. Of course if you want to be tricky, you can swap the memory card too.

&lt;strong&gt;Merry Christmas, be safe and take lots of pictures!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,<br />
Thanks for visiting and commenting. My advice about taking pictures inside malls is to be &#8220;<em><strong>low key</strong></em>.&#8221; That usually means not using a flash. </p>
<p>Most security guards and rent-a-cops have orders not to allow any photography. But to enforce that would be difficult, so they usually don&#8217;t bother if you don&#8217;t appear like a professional and are usually a point and shoot.</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, just about every portable device has a digital camera in it now especially phones, so they&#8217;re fighting a losing battle there.</p>
<p>If you use a digital SLR, I would suggest no long zoom lenses, that will usually &#8220;tip them off.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you get stopped, just say you didn&#8217;t know and move on and don&#8217;t argue, it&#8217;s not worth it. I doubt they&#8217;ll ask you to erase your images. </p>
<p>A little trick you can do on some digital SLRs is use the &#8220;<em><strong>protect image</strong></em>&#8221; feature. If you&#8217;re asked to erase the images, show them the menu where you choose erase all images. </p>
<p>Those images you protected will be safe. Of course if you want to be tricky, you can swap the memory card too.</p>
<p><strong>Merry Christmas, be safe and take lots of pictures!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2008/09/07/street-or-candid-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was very informative. Thank you for clearing up a few questions about where to and not to take photos. I&#039;m very new at photos in &quot;public&quot; places.  I didnt know that about malls. Although I have not yet shot any pictures there its good to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was very informative. Thank you for clearing up a few questions about where to and not to take photos. I&#8217;m very new at photos in &#8220;public&#8221; places.  I didnt know that about malls. Although I have not yet shot any pictures there its good to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixel Pete</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2008/09/07/street-or-candid-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixel Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,
Very nice of you to stop by and comment. I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m not the producer of The Mac Observer&#039;s Mac Geek Gab. I&quot;m going to have to check that out though.

Because you&#039;ve taken the time to comment, I now consider you a friend just as the others who have done so on my blog.

I wrote about street photography because many people exploring photography are not unlike you and I. We are social creatures and like to observe our fellow human beings. 

Unfortunately there are weirdos out there with cameras, hence we get the stereotypes that men with cameras are some sort of fiend. 

That&#039;s why I advise that when discovered taking pictures in public, it is best to &quot;come clean.&quot; 

You are lucky to be in Japan where photography is very widely accepted. 

If you&#039;ve been in Japan a while, depending on where you live, you must have heard of Sundays at &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harajuku&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Harajuku&lt;/a&gt;

It might not be what you&#039;re after since the kids that dress up and hang out are hamming it up. They&#039;re there to be seen.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,<br />
Very nice of you to stop by and comment. I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m not the producer of The Mac Observer&#8217;s Mac Geek Gab. I&#8221;m going to have to check that out though.</p>
<p>Because you&#8217;ve taken the time to comment, I now consider you a friend just as the others who have done so on my blog.</p>
<p>I wrote about street photography because many people exploring photography are not unlike you and I. We are social creatures and like to observe our fellow human beings. </p>
<p>Unfortunately there are weirdos out there with cameras, hence we get the stereotypes that men with cameras are some sort of fiend. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I advise that when discovered taking pictures in public, it is best to &#8220;come clean.&#8221; </p>
<p>You are lucky to be in Japan where photography is very widely accepted. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been in Japan a while, depending on where you live, you must have heard of Sundays at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harajuku" rel="nofollow">Harajuku</a></p>
<p>It might not be what you&#8217;re after since the kids that dress up and hang out are hamming it up. They&#8217;re there to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing about the ethics and mechanics of street photography.  I just started to do street photography in the past few months.  I&#039;m an American living in Tokyo and there is a natural distance between me and the general population at large which makes me very un-shy about taking street photography shots.  Japanese are very non-confrontational people, so I have had no problems or awkward moments yet.

However, I am moving back to the U.S. early next year and wonder if I will be bold enough to continue street photography?  

Reading the above post I feel I learned what a photographer&#039;s rights are, and what ethics and manners he/she should practice.

I shoot with an 80-200m f/2.8 lens mostly for street photography.  

I just realized, Pixel Pete, are you a friend or producer of The Mac Observer&#039;s Mac Geek Gab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing about the ethics and mechanics of street photography.  I just started to do street photography in the past few months.  I&#8217;m an American living in Tokyo and there is a natural distance between me and the general population at large which makes me very un-shy about taking street photography shots.  Japanese are very non-confrontational people, so I have had no problems or awkward moments yet.</p>
<p>However, I am moving back to the U.S. early next year and wonder if I will be bold enough to continue street photography?  </p>
<p>Reading the above post I feel I learned what a photographer&#8217;s rights are, and what ethics and manners he/she should practice.</p>
<p>I shoot with an 80-200m f/2.8 lens mostly for street photography.  </p>
<p>I just realized, Pixel Pete, are you a friend or producer of The Mac Observer&#8217;s Mac Geek Gab?</p>
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		<title>By: wall street &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World</title>
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		<dc:creator>wall street &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an illustrated version of this article by Riverside freelance photographer Peter Phun. Peter teaches photography at Riverside City College. He does portraits, weddings and editorial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pixel Pete</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2008/09/07/street-or-candid-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-2112</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixel Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shirley, 
I&#039;m bummed that NYC police made you wipe your video footage. It seems to be a trend which is not encouraging.

The Olympics situation is mostly fueled by greed. I can&#039;t imagine how they could try and enforce this. If you were were on a public street photographing say one of those long distance 10K races, which often take the runners through the city streets,  I can&#039;t imagine them trying to fight you for the rights to those pictures. 

If you were in a stadium, it might be a different story. Security would want to see credentials if you showed up with a long lens and professional-looking camera. Maybe I&#039;m naive,  but life used to be a whole lot simpler for making photographs in public places whether you&#039;re a tourist or someone who makes a living from photography. It&#039;s a travesty for artists/photographers.

I&#039;m saddened that it&#039;s  the same in Australia these days. Thank you for the insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirley,<br />
I&#8217;m bummed that NYC police made you wipe your video footage. It seems to be a trend which is not encouraging.</p>
<p>The Olympics situation is mostly fueled by greed. I can&#8217;t imagine how they could try and enforce this. If you were were on a public street photographing say one of those long distance 10K races, which often take the runners through the city streets,  I can&#8217;t imagine them trying to fight you for the rights to those pictures. </p>
<p>If you were in a stadium, it might be a different story. Security would want to see credentials if you showed up with a long lens and professional-looking camera. Maybe I&#8217;m naive,  but life used to be a whole lot simpler for making photographs in public places whether you&#8217;re a tourist or someone who makes a living from photography. It&#8217;s a travesty for artists/photographers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saddened that it&#8217;s  the same in Australia these days. Thank you for the insight!</p>
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		<title>By: S Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a similar problem with security guards and the police. If your camera is large and black, you will be challenged. 
It started before 911 though. It started with the Sydney Olympics in 2000. But it was for two reasons; one was security, and the other was the &#039;right&#039; to own Olympic images and use them for profit.
Nowadays its a money thing. We have to have a permit to photograph anywhere in Sydney for commercial purposes. So security guards will challenge you and ask to see your permit.
But that said, it was in New York in 2003, when I was stopped by a policeman and told I had to wipe my video footage of bridges. They had been watching me video the trip from the airport, and I was in the middle back seat on a shuttle bus.. And I was a genuine tourist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a similar problem with security guards and the police. If your camera is large and black, you will be challenged.<br />
It started before 911 though. It started with the Sydney Olympics in 2000. But it was for two reasons; one was security, and the other was the &#8216;right&#8217; to own Olympic images and use them for profit.<br />
Nowadays its a money thing. We have to have a permit to photograph anywhere in Sydney for commercial purposes. So security guards will challenge you and ask to see your permit.<br />
But that said, it was in New York in 2003, when I was stopped by a policeman and told I had to wipe my video footage of bridges. They had been watching me video the trip from the airport, and I was in the middle back seat on a shuttle bus.. And I was a genuine tourist.</p>
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		<title>By: John &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World</title>
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		<dc:creator>John &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an illustrated version of this article by Riverside freelance photographer Peter Phun. Peter teaches photography at Riverside City College. He does portraits, weddings and editorial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World &#124; Photographers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tips For Street Or Candid Photography in a Post-Sept 11 World &#124; Photographers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an illustrated version of this article by Riverside freelance photographer Peter Phun. Peter teaches photography at Riverside City College. He does portraits, weddings and editorial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pixel Pete</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2008/09/07/street-or-candid-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixel Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, thank you again for commenting. I generally ask parents before I photograph their kids these days. It&#039;s just easier for everyone. Parents can say no and I will gladly move on. My college photo instructor used to hate it whenever we turned in pictures of cute kids. Good ol&#039; Charlie Brill used to scoff and say, &quot;Cute pictures of kids are a dime a dozen.&quot;

And in just in case anyone thinks it&#039;s okay to take pictures inside any mall, it&#039;s not. That is not &lt;strong&gt;public property.&lt;/strong&gt; It&#039;s just tough for their security to enforce that &quot;NO PHOTOGRAPHY&quot; policy when there&#039;s so many people about. 

When I worked at the newspaper whenever there was some sort of scuffle or breaking news inside a mall, I used to lose my SLR and just strolled inside with a high-end point and shoot camera to keep a low profile to evade the security guards.


If I showed up with all my gear hanging around my neck, they&#039;ll ask me to cool my heels and wait in the mall office while their public relations people sort things out with the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, thank you again for commenting. I generally ask parents before I photograph their kids these days. It&#8217;s just easier for everyone. Parents can say no and I will gladly move on. My college photo instructor used to hate it whenever we turned in pictures of cute kids. Good ol&#8217; Charlie Brill used to scoff and say, &#8220;Cute pictures of kids are a dime a dozen.&#8221;</p>
<p>And in just in case anyone thinks it&#8217;s okay to take pictures inside any mall, it&#8217;s not. That is not <strong>public property.</strong> It&#8217;s just tough for their security to enforce that &#8220;NO PHOTOGRAPHY&#8221; policy when there&#8217;s so many people about. </p>
<p>When I worked at the newspaper whenever there was some sort of scuffle or breaking news inside a mall, I used to lose my SLR and just strolled inside with a high-end point and shoot camera to keep a low profile to evade the security guards.</p>
<p>If I showed up with all my gear hanging around my neck, they&#8217;ll ask me to cool my heels and wait in the mall office while their public relations people sort things out with the cops.</p>
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