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	<title>Comments on: Illuminating&#8211;Joe McNally&#8217;s LA Lighting workshop</title>
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	<description>Everyone's  a critic. I guess I'm no different.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter Phun</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2009/11/07/illuminating-joe-mcnallys-la-lighting-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-10249</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Phun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..  Joe,
Thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to say hello here. Next time you come through LA , I&#039;ll bring more of my students. But we&#039;ll plan to be there early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..  Joe,<br />
Thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to say hello here. Next time you come through LA , I&#8217;ll bring more of my students. But we&#8217;ll plan to be there early.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Phun</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2009/11/07/illuminating-joe-mcnallys-la-lighting-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-10248</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Phun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dave R,
Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment. As I said, even experienced photographers would have picked up something from his workshop. 

I just loved his anecdotes and stories. His all-inclusive attitude and willingness to share is what makes him a rarity. But it speaks to his confidence in his abilities.

&lt;em&gt;On the problem with lighting the front of the laptop during the workshop,  I wasn&#039;t clear what he wanted to do. My solution would have been to put the camera on a tripod, turn off ambient light in the room, turn on the computer and let the Apple logo burn in with a long exposure, then expose the picture normally with the flash.&lt;/em&gt;

I agree with you that 2 D diagrams leave a lot to be desired but much of what he showed you can pick up through experimentation on your own. 

The best photographers don&#039;t necessarily make it in the business because they don&#039;t know how to run a business.  

In that sense Joe is a rarity, he has been able to parlay his artistry and not compromise too much and still be so successful.

That to me is the epitome of success as an artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dave R,<br />
Thanks for taking the time to leave your comment. As I said, even experienced photographers would have picked up something from his workshop. </p>
<p>I just loved his anecdotes and stories. His all-inclusive attitude and willingness to share is what makes him a rarity. But it speaks to his confidence in his abilities.</p>
<p><em>On the problem with lighting the front of the laptop during the workshop,  I wasn&#8217;t clear what he wanted to do. My solution would have been to put the camera on a tripod, turn off ambient light in the room, turn on the computer and let the Apple logo burn in with a long exposure, then expose the picture normally with the flash.</em></p>
<p>I agree with you that 2 D diagrams leave a lot to be desired but much of what he showed you can pick up through experimentation on your own. </p>
<p>The best photographers don&#8217;t necessarily make it in the business because they don&#8217;t know how to run a business.  </p>
<p>In that sense Joe is a rarity, he has been able to parlay his artistry and not compromise too much and still be so successful.</p>
<p>That to me is the epitome of success as an artist.</p>
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		<title>By: joe mcnally</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe mcnally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many thanks for the kind words pete...glad you showed up...all best, Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many thanks for the kind words pete&#8230;glad you showed up&#8230;all best, Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Dave R</title>
		<link>http://peterphun.com/blog/2009/11/07/illuminating-joe-mcnallys-la-lighting-workshop/comment-page-1/#comment-10246</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a worthwhile workshop.  Technical details you can figure out online; for me the most useful bits were how he did light placement (2D lighting diagrams leave a lot to be desired); how he works through lighting problems; and most important, that you&#039;ve got to keep pushing the envelope to get those really interesting shots even when things don&#039;t seem to be going your way. 


Most of the lighting setups were just brilliant, but that red gelled laptop with the blue background was just weird.  Learned a lot from the portrait lighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a worthwhile workshop.  Technical details you can figure out online; for me the most useful bits were how he did light placement (2D lighting diagrams leave a lot to be desired); how he works through lighting problems; and most important, that you&#8217;ve got to keep pushing the envelope to get those really interesting shots even when things don&#8217;t seem to be going your way. </p>
<p>Most of the lighting setups were just brilliant, but that red gelled laptop with the blue background was just weird.  Learned a lot from the portrait lighting.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Phun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Phun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeeAnn,
Joe McNally gives these one day workshops with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kelbytraining.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kelby Training.&lt;/a&gt; 

NPPA, National Press Photographers Association, which I used to belong to during my rookie years has been ineffective in helping educate its members. 

Sadly, I&#039;m sure their numbers are dwindling these days. 

If you don&#039;t get a chance to see Joe McNally in person, you might find some videos of him online like this one below.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeeAnn,<br />
Joe McNally gives these one day workshops with <a href="http://www.kelbytraining.com/" rel="nofollow">Kelby Training.</a> </p>
<p>NPPA, National Press Photographers Association, which I used to belong to during my rookie years has been ineffective in helping educate its members. </p>
<p>Sadly, I&#8217;m sure their numbers are dwindling these days. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t get a chance to see Joe McNally in person, you might find some videos of him online like this one below.</p>
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		<title>By: DeeAnn</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeeAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That workshop sounded educating, fun and your retelling hilarious.
Did you find that workshop through NPPA? Sounds like you got way more than your money worth Peter, thanks for sharing story &amp; photos. Nice G3 shadow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That workshop sounded educating, fun and your retelling hilarious.<br />
Did you find that workshop through NPPA? Sounds like you got way more than your money worth Peter, thanks for sharing story &amp; photos. Nice G3 shadow&#8230;</p>
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